tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post7046541106554751407..comments2024-03-28T08:48:13.582+00:00Comments on Maps Matter: Vanishing PubsSK53-osmhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05611497805471433828noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post-56933277001957573912021-09-03T15:15:01.481+01:002021-09-03T15:15:01.481+01:00Please please does anyone remember the The New Vic...Please please does anyone remember the The New Vic pub at the rear entrance to Victoria centre as was? <br />Paul and Janet used to run it then would love to see some old photos or meet some of the people I remember from those halcyon days.thanks in anticipation.dg Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10858814068855216617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post-89533410320198898292015-07-25T17:12:59.154+01:002015-07-25T17:12:59.154+01:00@Mike Carter. It was never called the Admiral Bend...@Mike Carter. It was never called the Admiral Bendigo IIRC, just Bendigo (he's the boxer above the door) who also has a town named after him in Australia. <br /><br>In general I've used the last trading name of the pub (for instance I think The Local on Alfreton Road was called something else beforehand). Some places have so many names & name variants it's hard to keep up. My all time favourite was a pub I used to frequent called the South Ealing Tavern. Not long after the pub had been refurbished friends took me to their local pub The Penny Flyer. I thought it was a bit odd that I didnt recognise the pub name in the area. To my astonishment I discovered the pub had changed its name and I hadn't noticed. The new name lasted about 2 years & then they reverted to the old one.SK53-osmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05611497805471433828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post-18248991907743390292015-06-22T19:20:23.079+01:002015-06-22T19:20:23.079+01:00The Hermitage pub was originally called The Admira...The Hermitage pub was originally called The Admiral Bendigo, please use the proper name!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05145792427711345150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post-66990864641899190512015-06-22T19:19:27.941+01:002015-06-22T19:19:27.941+01:00Back in the 80s and 90s the Admiral Bendigo was a ...Back in the 80s and 90s the Admiral Bendigo was a lively place to have a drink, even the mice used to go in in pairs! Once saw a man (one of Del's the Secondhand shop owner's employees) being beaten around the head with a speaker (probably by a disgruntled customer). I used to have the odd pint at the Fox...Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05145792427711345150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post-67233350333864357082013-06-05T19:28:58.616+01:002013-06-05T19:28:58.616+01:00@Pgd broadly I'd agree with you, although arou...@Pgd broadly I'd agree with you, although around Nottingham we tend to use <a href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/old_amenity" rel="nofollow">old_amenity=*</a> with associated old_name=*, rather than amenity:disused which is a bit ambiguous (is it a pub, but disused or something else which used to be a pub).<br /><br />Ideally Historical OSM is the place for pubs which have completely disappeared, but I must admit to having added a few nodes recently: as much to create a database of Nottingham pubs in order to evaluate the rate of change.<br /><br />Mapping pubs which are now used for other purposes is pretty much essential for OSM. Many other sources of data will still refer to these as pubs (including any council open data) and the ability to cross-refer external data to existing OSM nodes is invaluable (more in next blog post).SK53-osmhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05611497805471433828noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post-26279943462600621502013-06-05T16:21:33.607+01:002013-06-05T16:21:33.607+01:00There are loads of dead pubs near me, too, which I...There are loads of dead pubs near me, too, which I've thought about tagging. In addition to "amenity=dead_pub" for buildings in limbo, I'd assume that if a pub definitively changes use (to flats, a supermarket, mosque etc) but is still the same building and potentially recognisable as a former pub, it's worth adding "amenity:disused=pub" or similar, but if the building is no longer recognisable at all (or demolished) then the fact that it used to be a pub is not suitable data to record in OSM. Would you agree?Pgdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14875436064342797702noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2082422783692631078.post-83922039424369443152013-06-05T09:26:09.041+01:002013-06-05T09:26:09.041+01:00I've probably got quite a few pics like this a...I've probably got quite a few pics like this among my OpenStreetMap photos, but maybe I should make a collection too. I spot former pubs quite a lot in residential areas of London, sometimes with nice tile decorations which make it obvious what it once was.<br /><br />You should join this flickr group: http://www.flickr.com/groups/deadpubssociety/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com