|Infill housing, St Cuthbert's Road, Nottingham NG3|
One little vignette stood out.
We were walking down St Cuthbert's Road in the area called Sneinton Elements, and the house numbers were a little peculiar at the bottom of the road. Most of the road was terraced houses, but the last terrace was number 10 followed by a detached house at 8, a gap and then finally number 2 which was at the end of a terrace on the main road, Carlton Road. As I wanted to make sure I captured this particular group of numbers I took a few photos. A chap came out of one of the houses wanting to know, not unreasonably, why I was taking pictures of his house.
He was sure I was doing it for money. I explained a bit about OpenStreetMap, and tried also to satisfy him that I mapped as much for my own interest as anything else. As an example I said I was interested what had happened to the original houses 4-8. The answer was unexpected: they'd been destroyed by a World War II bomb.
I knew about some of the bombing in Nottingham, but not very much. At this point we were away. He was deeply interested in local history and could explain a lot about the neighbourhood, even though, as he explained, he was not local. In fact his family came from Hyson Green (about 2 km away) and had perhaps lived there for several hundred years.
I have this sort of heartening exchange now and then when I'm out mapping. Every time I'm still surprised just how interested people are in these things, and how much knowledge they have. In many ways my own interests in these things are a significant motivator for my own involvement in OSM. Of course I dont expect someone in their '70s to necessarily want to get down to the nitty gritty of editing, but I think it does show that map and/or local history geekiness are much more widespread than one might think.
The other thing of note is probably something which is disappearing: my interlocutor had a really precise sense of locality.
|Locations of WWII bombs in Nottingham|
Image from Nottstalgia forum
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- Wikipedia has a decent overview.
- Oral history transcribed by the BBC
- A discussion on a local forum (source of the map above).
Once again the link between mapping, old maps and local history had reasserted itself.
This house I heard through family was my GRANDDAD'S first family and his wife and 2 children was killed in the bombing. George Denman was my Granddad's name.ReplyDelete
Hello, my great grandfather was born at 10 Manning St in Nottingham. I was trying to see the house on Google Earth but I noticed that for Manning St only the odd numbered side of the street is there. I wondered if the other side of the street was impacted by the bombing? Can you suggest a place for me to look up this information- if it exists? Thanks, ShirleyReplyDelete
Hello, it's Shirley again. Please disregard my last comment. I had mixed up the address. It was 29 Manning St, Nottingham but I don't see that one either. ThanksReplyDelete
The Nottstalgia forums are full of people with an amazing knowledge of Nottingham and its people, probably the best place to ask such questions if you haven't already.
For maps, the National Library of Scotland has a whole range of old maps (see https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/#zoom=18&lat=52.96519&lon=-1.14136&layers=168&b=7); as does the Insight GIS site run by Nottingham City Council (including aerial imagery from 1940).
Manning Street ran much further down towards St Ann's Well Road, and the current houses are part of the 1970s re-development of St Anns.
Further sleuthing suggests that your Granddad's house was about here (on NLS Historical maps). The little terrace behind Manning St was called Cliff Terrace and 29 was one of the houses either side of it.